Couples Counseling: For PMs and PDs

Episode Description

Welcome to the inaugural episode of "Bounce" with your hosts Claire Flowers and Mollie Cox! 

In this introductory episode, Claire and Mollie delve into the intricate relationship between designers and product managers, uncovering the nuances, challenges, and opportunities within this dynamic collaboration.

Drawing from their own experience on product teams, Claire and Mollie explore the symbiotic and sometimes difficult relationship between designers and product managers.

From where communication can fail and roles can conflict, to where both PMs and designers can improve or adjust. Claire and Mollie even share their own “friction moments”, failures and “product traumas” as they dissect the messy and oftentimes stressful environments that product teams work in.

Join Claire and Mollie on the beginning of this thought-provoking journey as they unpack the industry – offering invaluable wisdom and actionable advice for professionals navigating this ever-evolving landscape. 

Episode Highlights

0:00 - Intro

0:18 - Exploring the dynamics between product managers and product designers

1:12 - Discussing the designers first

4:57 - Designers being more timid

7:04 - Designers stepping on your toes

8:42 - Patterns that Mollie is noticing w/ PMs

10:08 - “We never have time”

15:18 - Different flavors of PMs

19:03 - How can designers provide more clarity?

21:55 - One of Claire’s “friction moments”

24:03 - Who’s responsible for writing copy?

29:54 - Mollie’s take on PM boundaries

34:28 - Bad assumptions

39:56 - Designers being the “afterthought”

46:19 - Episode wrap-up